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Planet Nine (1)
Che cos’è il Pianeta 9? Spesso ci si riferisce a questo misterioso pianeta anche con l’etichetta “Planet X”.
Si tratta di un oggetto del tutto ipotetico e massiccio in orbita ellittica ben oltre Plutone, all'incirca a una distanza che impiegherebbe dai 10mila ai 20mila anni terrestri per completare un singolo giro intorno al Sole.
Su questo pianeta non abbiamo osservazioni dirette, ovviamente: se ne ipotizza l’esistenza osservando alcuni pattern inaspettati nelle orbite di altri oggetti cosmici più piccoli nelle gelide regioni esterne del Sistema Solare. Variazioni che, appunto, potrebbero spiegarsi con l’attrazione gravitazionale di un corpo come questo.
In particolare nella fascia di Kuiper estrema – la regione esterna del Sistema Solare che si estende da oltre l'orbita di Nettuno fino a 50 Unità Astronomiche (U.A.) dal Sole – alcuni oggetti, per la precisione quattordici, sfoggiano comportamenti bizzarri: anziché avere orbite casuali e indipendenti, presentano alcune caratteristiche comuni.
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MareKromium  [Ago 15, 2021 at 10:34 AM]
Il Nono Pianeta del Sistema Solare era e resta Plutone (addirittura un Sistema Quaternario).
E chi vuole "cercare" il Planet Nine ora? Quello che spinse per declassare Plutone. Io queste cose le chiamo "conflitto di interessi" (Scientifici ed economici). E NON mi piacciono.
walthari  [Ago 15, 2021 at 11:27 AM]
condivido
MareKromium  [Ago 22, 2021 at 10:56 AM]
Testo originale dell’articolo “What is the Time on Mars?”, di Donald Carr

What is the Real Time on Mars?
The intuitive answer is that it is the same as UTC (UTC is the time standard commonly used across the world), and if I read the NASA site correctly they timed the deployment of the heat shield and parachutes on the lost missions by using UTC.

My question is, does UTC hold good at Mars, or does Martian standard time apply? You will retort that the Principle of Simultaneity requires this to be so.
My answer is I don’t believe that UTC or the Principle hold at Mars.

When the Apollo astronauts journeyed to the moon, they returned having recorded times for their journey two and a bit seconds longer than the elapsed time here on Earth. If this shift of time was consistent they were one and a bit seconds ahead of the Earth and UTC whilst on the Moon.

Therefore lunar standard time is one and a bit seconds different to UTC. I wrote to NASA about the effect on the Astronauts and received the reply “That seems to be about right, but they should have returned younger”.

The Physicists of Planet Earth will remind me that it takes precisely the same time for light or a radio signal to travel to the Moon, so that will explain it. Not so.
I have made quite extensive investigation into the nature of Radio Transmission, and in doing so as a Radio Amateur; I had to take particular notice of Frequency – a time measurement. When you buy or describe your current computer, you will make use of exactly the same units – Megahertz.

This is a measurement of Time. BUT WHAT business do you have using time measurement to describe Radio or Electronics, both a subset of Electromagnetic radiation, known to Physicists as “light”?

Look up the dimensional definition of light. There are two units of displacement (S), and one unit of force (F). TIME is omitted from the definition. Light cannot within the restriction of its dimensions be described using Terahertz or Nanometres.

If light is improperly studied as a third dimensional entity, velocity applies. If however TIME is included in the definition, light becomes a fourth dimensional entity just like Gravity. (If TIME is admitted as a four-dimensional entity, then light becomes a seventh dimensional entity, just like the mathematicians require it to be to construct a universe).
No one ever speaks about the velocity of Gravity; it’s a fourth dimensional entity, so also is electromagnetic radiation, which includes LIGHT.
As a fourth dimension entity light has no Velocity. Some old Geezers made a mistake 300 years ago. The entity “C” is still a very important Physical entity, but in its inverse form. Where its units “Seconds per Metre” may be applied to estimate Time differences between sites.

The two-second delay in journeying to and from the Moon is therefore not well explained by reference to the Velocity of Light.
This may also be applied to Mars, at closest approach Mars is about six minutes difference in UTC, and maybe it increases to more than twenty minutes in opposition. Radar and transponder signal will confirm this.
We Earthlings have therefore assumed without proof that Martians obey our standards of Time.
I don’t think that they do, when a body orbits about another, there is synchronization to the larger body, but with an offset as demonstrated at the Moon. A return trip to Mars may entail a time shift of twelve minutes.

Mars in my opinion behaves as a synchronized body orbiting the Sun, and synchronizes its time, just as Earth does to that larger body, we have Earth eight minutes separation from Sol, and Mars is about 14 minutes from Sol. Albert
Einstein would have liked to play with these measurements as he predicted that as Gravity increases near a body, then time also increases.
This mechanism suggests to me that just as there are centers of Gravity, there are also centers of Time. When in orbit about a centre, time synchronizes with that centre. Mars does not orbit Earth, thus it is not synchronized, and doesn’t obey UTC convention.
Where NASA can help, they have the data on the Apollo missions to verify the time shift to the Moon. They also have a very nice orbiting clock around Mars, the Mars orbiter satellite.

If the times of origin at Mars, the times of transit from Mars to Earth, and the received time at Earth are analyzed, then the Martian Offset would be exposed, and one possible reason for the loss of their missions could be revealed. It is not Metric to Imperial conversion.

Albert would be quite upset with me, I believe much of what he wrote; however C is not the velocity of light, and is nowhere constant. He should have used relativity to correct his statement concerning the Velocity of light.
The velocity “C” is involved in electronic transmission line theory, and in various media is subject to a “Correction Factor”. Look up a table of velocity factors for coaxial cables. Thus if “C” exhibits the characteristics of a function in one reference frame (Coaxial cable velocity) then it is a function in all frames of reference, and a constant it is NOT.
I don’t like to use a velocity for light, but suggest instead that the value 1/C is a much more meaningful measurement, it is the distribution of Time throughout the universe. In the vicinity of Earth it has a value of 3.367 e –9 seconds per meter. This is sufficient to give a time separation from here to the Moon of 1.25 seconds. This value agrees nicely with Mars separations.

In fact it may be applied to all measurements calculated by reference to the incorrect “Velocity of Light”, it is simply the inverse function applying its units correctly.
In passing, the distribution of Time throughout the universe is also not a constant; it increases in the presence of gravity near a body (A. Einstein). I speculate that it is very low between Solar systems, and between Galaxies, Deep Space travel may not take as long as we are lead to believe!

TIME is asynchronous!

What is the real time on Mars?

Per Walt e chiunque conosca l'Inglese (Americano). Queste "caxxate" non le ho scritte io, ma un Fisico con le "Palle"!
walthari  [Ago 22, 2021 at 04:38 PM]
"It is not Metric to Imperial conversion." Già non lo è, ma perchè la NASA sembra ignorare questa teoria sul tempo?Se sono 12 i minuti di gap temporale tra i due sistemi di riferimento e questo sarà confermato, i viaggi interstellari dovranno essere alla nostra portata.A questo punto si deve progettare una propulsione che possa farci raggiungere nel minor tempo possibile l'eliosfera....il resto sarebbe in discesa...to boldly go where no man has gone before!....ma il dubbio mi attanaglia, come è possibile comandare dalla Terra paracadute, scudi e quant'altro abbisogni di una precisione notevole affinchè non si abbiano problemi di traiettoria, riscaldamento, impatto disastroso o fuoriuscita dall'orbita?E che dire delle manovre effettuate su oggetti ancora più lontani?Quel gap allora la NASA lo applica?Oppure questa teoria non regge?O mi manca ancora qualcosa per capire bene?
MareKromium  [Ago 22, 2021 at 08:04 PM]
Per ora Ti dico che ho capito. Completerò la missiva nei prossimi giorni Walt. Guarda qui o su altri commenti, ogni tanto. Una cosa: quello che manca a Te manca pure a me. Ma Tu, onestamente, pensi che la NASA ci dica tutto?!? Tu hai capito e sei davvero MOLTO Bravo! Si, la NASA conosce il "gioco", e dobbiamo almeno provare ad arrivare all'Eliopausa in "poco" tempo. Poi la strada sarà - forse - davvero in discesa. Ti risponderò punto per punto. Ma SO che hai capito. Faccio sempre più fatica a scrivere, ma continuo.
walthari  [Ago 23, 2021 at 09:43 AM]
ma perchè poi nascondere questo aspetto, perchè se fosse valido?Ho fatto un calcolino approssimativo e se dovessimo considerare il gap nei dintorni di Saturno dovrebbe aggirarsi a 50 e più minuti.....non parliamo poi se consideriamo la distanza di Plutone o dei Trans nettuniani.......
MareKromium  [Ago 24, 2021 at 05:02 PM]
Il Tuo calcolo mi interessa MOLTO! Puoi mandarmi qualcosa, please? In ordine alla Tua domanda: perché nascondere? Facile. Non siamo pronti. E, forse, i "risultati" non sono neppure "roba" nostra... ;-)
walthari  [Ago 24, 2021 at 05:36 PM]
è solo una proporzione bovina se 12 minuti sta a 400 milioni x. 1,7 miliardi, distanze orbitali massime di Marte e Saturno....niente di raffinato amico mio
MareKromium  [Ago 25, 2021 at 08:34 PM]
Scusa Walt, ho capito l'idea (mi piace! Non è "bovina"!), ma non la proporzione, che deduco debba essere lineare. Me la riscrivi/rispieghi per favore? Abbraccio! - paolo